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Founders' Heirs by fhrulz21 - T

Discussion in 'Almost Recommended' started by KenderCleric, May 16, 2007.

  1. KenderCleric

    KenderCleric Lord of Plot Bunnies

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    Title: Founders' Heirs
    Author: fhrulz21
    Rating: T
    Genre: Alternate Universe
    DLP Category: Alternates
    Pairing: H/G, R/Hr
    Status: Work in Progress
    Summary: AU preHBP. Harry and Company are sent to an alternate universe where his parents are still alive, he is dead and Voldemort is still very active. The twist, they have just beaten Voldemort in their dimension by uniting Hogwarts as the Founder's Heirs.

    URL: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2697767/1/

    I know I'm going to get flamed for posting a H/G story, but the 'ship aspect of this fic doesn't have the same crap-tastic feel most H/G fics do. Read on to understand.

    Fairly interesting mixture of plots: Golden Trio + Ginny = reincarnated Founders. Toss in an unexpect trip to an alternate dimension and you've got a fairly standard cliche fic.

    The only reason I'm placing it here is because unlike so many others the story really seems to revolve more around the interaction of the 4 "Founders" side of their personalities than the normal Golden Trio + Ginny concept. As events unfold the historic split between Slytherin and the other Founders becomes more of a focus as current events begin to create tension that the non-founder side of the four normally wouldn't encounter.

    All in all I give the fic a 3/5. It's not great, but certainly not the worst I've read. Mainly it's the interesting focus the story has that kicks it up from a 2.5 to 3.

    Most folks here won't like it I'd guess, but one or two might.
     
  2. Wergan

    Wergan Third Year

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    Intresting story, a bit above average if you don't mind Ginny (like me, she doesn't bug me most of the time she just has to be well written). I would give this a 3.3 but for the average :GDie1 reader I would say around a 3/5
     
  3. nonjon

    nonjon Alumni Retired Staff

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    Am I missing something? Why post this?

    "For Review" is where you suggest fics for the DLP library that you think are worthy of being added to the library. So why would anyone start a thread for a fic that they didn't believe was at least a 4/5 if not a 5/5? Most of the time, the OP is one of a fic's more vocal supporters. I mean there's a reason the OP suggested it. But if you think it's a borderline Trash Bin fic (OP said he bumped his opinion from 2.5 to 3), don't waste people's time.

    This is the same crap with people posting fics they know will be ripped to shreds. There are many places for discussion of crap fics but the library is not one of them.

    If you just want to suggest a fic or make a comment on one that has no hope for making it through the DLP wringer then please, let's resurrect the old thread whose entire purpose was exactly that:
    Unrecommended fiction - From barely readable to almost good
    You have my permission to necro that thread with fics like this. Things that are 2-3 stars but worth a mention. Hence the upper limit of almost good. If it's good, you should be giving it a 4 or 5 and offering it up as a sacrifice to the "For Review" gods.

    And if you're just a immature little fucker who wants to post squick fics to make people read them, there are places for that too.

    The "awesomely bad" HP fanfics thread v4.0 is the more pleasant "General Discussion" thread for this.

    Use WTF Fics for the "Sick and Perverse" stuff.

    But don't put up fics "FOR REVIEW" that you don't even think belong in the library.
     
  4. KenderCleric

    KenderCleric Lord of Plot Bunnies

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    Nonjon,

    As I said at the end of my post I knew it's a fic many wouldn't like, but that some might. I'll admit that I had my doubts about posting it in For Review, but I wasn't aware of the "Unrecommended fiction" thread. I will, in the future, use it for fics that I come across that catch my attention, but aren't really up to the "For Review" standards.

    Sorry if it hacked you off that bad.
     
  5. nonjon

    nonjon Alumni Retired Staff

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    Err... in case you missed it, right after I posted that I gave you rep for giving me the opportunity to vent about abuse of the For Review section. I even quoted Tupac for you: I ain't mad at cha.
     
  6. KenderCleric

    KenderCleric Lord of Plot Bunnies

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    Ah.

    Right.

    I'll just...be....over there then.
     
  7. afrojack

    afrojack Chief Warlock DLP Supporter

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    This story is meh at best. The romance is sickening, but the concept isn't half bad. This could be great in the hands of a better author, but for now, it's cruisin with a 3/5.
     
  8. Manatheron

    Manatheron Headmaster

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    I may be a lone voice here, but I am awed by this story. The characters are down to earth and realistic, the situations they find themselves in are plausible, and the spelling and grammar is very close to perfect. I don't particularly care for the pairings, but they seem more incidental than anything to me, more of a 'Oh, and if you care, this is how the characters are inclined romantically' afterthought. It isn't shown much, and it has very little bearing on the story.

    Personally I'm ranking it a 4.8/5 Not perfect, but getting Damn close.

    (Now if only Ginny had been Hanna instead)
     
  9. Wergan

    Wergan Third Year

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    True would have been better if Ginny had been Hannah. That would have ruined the whole all put into Grffindor by choice, but belonged somewhere else. Though that was such a minor plot point it didn't matter. I also don't agree with Ginny's experience of the CoS making her more accepting of the Dark Arts, if anything it should make her more against them. One last problem is Ginny's attitude (At this point I can't tell how much of it is cannon and how much is fannon) generally a fiery active person (cept her crush on Harry) which doesn't sit with me as Helga Hufflepuff. Oh well
     
  10. nonjon

    nonjon Alumni Retired Staff

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    Just read this one. And I'd agree with most, that it's not too bad. It does feel like a half dozen other fics all combined into one. Stereotypical reaction of the Marauders to their "dark" son. Stereotypically intolerant Ministry with their over-the-top concentration camps for Death Eaters (heck even the Nazis were more subtle than that). The always 'oh so convenient' magical masteries were pumped into their heads. Stereotypical misunderstanding about the Founders' split a millennium ago. The painfully typical Potters realizing how cruel they were finally understanding Harry trying to mend their rift. The idea that these four just happen to be the founders and for the first time ever are chosen as heirs by Hogwarts, etc...

    Honestly, I should dislike this fic more. I find myself tolerant of this 'good' Snape. And I barely mind the fact that it's Harry/Ginny and Ron/Hermione. If you're wondering, I'll tell you there's no romance in this fic. At all. Ginny's described as his girlfriend, and she's the one who talks to him when he needs it, but they could be brother and sister for all the romance in this. And it's not the sort of fanon Ginny I despise. She's not getting any more screen time than Ron or Hermione. She's not the only one who understands Harry, or fawning, or stealing socks, or even acting fangirlish. She's just the girlfriend. Now if I had to read about how she became the girlfriend I'd probably want to claw my eyes out.

    Overall, a few interesting ideas intermixed with dozens of the same sort of fic rehashed and mashed together. Too many cliches (which too often feel like uninspired 'default' choices) for my tastes, but for those who've not read quite so much fanfic I can easily see how they might love this one.

    3/5 sounds about right.
     
  11. Manatheron

    Manatheron Headmaster

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    Hmmm I was Ignoring the potters....

    your right though, now that you mention it. more like a 4.4 than a 4.8
     
  12. nonjon

    nonjon Alumni Retired Staff

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    Good to know the Potters rate a 0.4 dock. Seriously, some of the precision in people's ratings is a bit silly.

    But this is like an heir-of-founder fic (super them all up) crossed with a founder-reincarnated fic (woe is me and the misunderstood dark creatures) crossed with an alternate-dimension fic (no son of mine is dark, just kidding, I love you, forgive me, by the way how'd you kill Voldemort?).

    I think it's the lack of surprises overall that fails for me. Though the last chapter and Ron being a bone-headed Gryffindor was almost an interesting twist. Almost.
     
  13. KenderCleric

    KenderCleric Lord of Plot Bunnies

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    It's the fact that the author managed to write this all-in-one fic and didn't make me want to cancel my internet subscription within a paragraph that amazed me. Maybe they just spaced the cliches out enough so that the mind doesn't instantly move into "fight or flight" survival mode. Who knows.
     
  14. Manatheron

    Manatheron Headmaster

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    {shrugs}

    Harry never really forgave them, I'm still hoping for a little groveling myself. One meal isn't likely to make up for what they did, and everybody skated around the fact that he was slythern incarnate.

    I'm still waiting, there is still hope that this isn't a sign that the fic is going down the toilet.

    hence only a .4 dock. the rest of it was still pretty damn good.
     
  15. Redeye

    Redeye Penultimate Lurker DLP Supporter

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    meh this fic just rubs me the wrong way.
    The whole founders thing, ok I can understand if Harry, Hermione, and maybe even Ginny, display some characteristics of other houses, but your telling me that Hogwarts thought that those 3 represented the house better than everyone else that was in each respective house? If you can argue the hat in to putting you into another house you obviously were not the best representation of Slytherin etc. . .

    the rest of the story seems to me like well written cliches, which I suppose is better than horribly written cliches, but still its not enough for me to ever give this fic anything above a 3/5.
     
  16. Prophet of the Waves

    Prophet of the Waves First Year

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    I really liked it its better then most of the founder stories that I have read but the only thing that bugs me is that Ginny is one of the founders. Just becuase in general I don't like Ginny that much
     
  17. C. Sardothien

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    Average.

    I didn't think that this fic was anything special.

    Nothing truly original in it.

    3/5